Wednesday, November 22, 2006

George King Actually Wrote a Decent Article?

It could be because it's free of opinion and just giving regurgitated quotes and facts, but even so, amazing.

King reveals the admitted thought processes of many of the MVP voters, which of course includes a section on Joe Cowley. (Remember him? The guy we're all mail bombing right now? The guy you're signing up for mailing lists? Yes, that Joe Cowley.)

My favorite part has to be this:

This isn't the first time Cowley has been in the eye of an MVP controversy.

In 2003, when he worked for the Daily Southtown, Cowley left Carlos Delgado and Vernon Wells off his ballot. Chicago chapter chairman Paul Sullivan suspended Cowley from voting the following year because he didn't think Cowley took the voting seriously and "embarrassed" the Chicago chapter.

In other douchebag news, I heard Cowley on the Dan Patrick show today, and it was incredibly obvious that not only is he a homer, but he couldn't defend his positions well. He left Joe Mauer (OPS+ 128) off his ballot, but included A.J. Pierzynski (OPS+ 95) and defended this by having to "look past stats" and the fact that Pierzynski had to catch "a bunch of headcases." This is not to mention that Mauer won a Gold Glove (which doesn't mean he was the best, but it is certainly indicitive that he's at least not a butcher) and he caught the Cy Young winner and the probable Rookie of the Year (before he got hurt, of course).

When asked about Alex Rodriguez on his ballot, he says he put him on though because of "stats." Way to contradict yourself, assfrog.

Listen here, and tell me he doesn't completely show his anti-New York bias with comments like "the slurping sound coming from New York."

posted by Mr. Faded Glory @ 6:41 PM   16 comments


At 11/24/2006 1:18 AM, Blogger Pinstripe_Mike said...

If BBWA does not suspent him (Cowley)FOREVER from voting, the whole system is a scam. Does he know the Yankees once had a pitcher named Joe Cowley? Maybe he's jealous.

At 11/24/2006 8:29 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yankees fans (and NY fans in general- Knicks and Rangers included) are shameless homers. To them, no one matters except the Yankees. Well, I got some news for you- Dye WAS more valuable than Jeter. You all can faint at the sight of matinee idol jeter and sniff his throne and proclaim him the second coming of Cal Ripken til the end of time; the truth is, Dye was better. Period. Get over yourselves. I didn't hear any of you whining when Frank Thomas was cheated out of the MVP in 2000 by NY writers who voted for present Yankee Jason Giambi. You sound like a bunch of babies.

At 11/24/2006 1:48 PM, Blogger Karen said...

If it's only Yankee fans who are shameless homers, then why was Cowley the ONLY writer -- from coast to coast, mind you -- to place Dye as high as second? I know sportswriters are a bunch of crackpots, but if there's only one guy who's placing Dye that high, and he's writing for a Chicago paper, then you have to apply the same logic.

And I recall A LOT of Yankee fans I know bemoaning the fact that Giambi won the MVP in 2000. But I guess the fumes coming off Jeter's throne were so far-reaching that it covered all of us in a blanket stereotype or something. Please.

And what is up with all the anonymous commenters on blogs these days? You'd think they don't want us to know who they are or something...

At 11/24/2006 5:34 PM, Blogger Mr. Faded Glory said...

And obviously they don't read either, as this has never been about Jeter losing. This is about Morneau winning and the thought process (or lack thereof) of sportwriters.

Bottom line, there were only three acceptable AL MVP candidates: Johan Santana (sorry, pitcher), Joe Mauer (sorry, left off ballots(?!)) and Derek Jeter.

You would not hear outrage and complains had any of them won it.

Dye had a very good year, but he didn't lead the league in anything and he didn't lead his team into the playoffs.

For the record, my ballot would have looked like this:
1. Santana
2. Jeter
3. Mauer
4. Hafner
5. Ortiz
6. Thomas
7. Dye
8. Guerrero
9. Guillen
10. Morneau

At 11/24/2006 5:35 PM, Blogger Mr. Faded Glory said...

I will agree with you that Dye would have been a much better choice than Morneau as you can actually make the case that he was the most valuable White Sox

At 11/24/2006 7:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hafner above Dye?
Morneau tenth?

Yep, that was your credibility flying right off the page. I never said NY fans are the ONLY homers. I said that NY fans constantly act as though they've been victimized. You're either a dynasty or a pathetic club (Cubs). You can't be both. And Jeter had tons of support in his line-up. Santana is a pitcher. The pitcher's MVP award IS the Cy Young. For me, it comes down to contending teams and players playing a pivotol role in their teams' pursuit of the post-season. Boston is out- Ortiz. Cleveland is WAY out- Hafner. Minnesota, Detroit, NY, and Oakland. I'll give Thomas credit as he carried the whole team. He'd be acceptable as a third place (he didn't start hitting until August). Guillen was an important part of the Detroit surge this year, I'd put him at 6 or 7 at best (his numbers are not high but he was clutch and consistent). Jeter is a nice player, but were he in Minnesota, would you care? No, you wouldn't and you're a liar if you say you would care. He is in NY, he's a good looking guy dating celebrities and the only big-namer on a squad of old, tired, retreads and 'roid abusers. Morneau was instrumental, as was Dye, Mauer, Jeter, Thomas.
Here's my ballot:

1. Morneau
2. Dye
3. Thomas
4. Jeter.
5. Mauer

Yankee fans say 'you have to watch Jeter everyday to know how important he was this year'. Well, Jermaine Dye carried the team for a stretch, and Konerko, Crede, Jenks, and AJ Pierzynski were the only start-to-finish consistent players on the team this year. Do the math.

At 11/24/2006 7:13 PM, Blogger Mr. Faded Glory said...

The "math" states that Hafner had far better stats than Dye, and neither team made the playoffs. I've never once said "you have to watch Jeter everyday to appreciate him." The fact is he led the league in VORP. That's math.

At 11/24/2006 9:17 PM, Blogger susan mullen said...

Why would someone waste time attacking
a team's fans rather than discussing the subject at hand, which is the voting system. There are plenty of other blogs where you can do that. And wow, your guy was "instrumental," I'm now totally informed and sold, but that would mean you have to recall 2 of last year's awards. Since you're obviously a genius, you'll know which 2 I mean. Have a nice day.

At 11/24/2006 9:35 PM, Blogger susan mullen said...

P.S. Whose name is now known around the globe as a result of this process?
A name most of the world would never have known. This process does 1 thing very well: makes celebrities of rather unknown individuals.

At 11/25/2006 5:31 AM, Blogger Karen said...

Why would someone waste time attacking a team's fans rather than discussing the subject at hand, which is the voting system

Amen to that. This is what the post (and the ones before it - and states he'd be happy with two non-Yankees as a winner, nothing about being a Jeter fanboy) is essentially about, but because a Yankee fan wrote it, it's a crybaby's rant. But maybe if Mr. Faded Glory were in Minnesota, none of us would care about his opinion, either. *Rolls eyes*

At 11/25/2006 9:05 AM, Blogger lupe_velez said...

You all can faint at the sight of matinee idol jeter and sniff his throne and proclaim him the second coming of Cal Ripken til the end of time;

Yankee fans say 'you have to watch Jeter everyday to know how important he was this year'.

you're in the wrong place, cupcake. nyyfans is over there.

At 11/26/2006 9:18 AM, Blogger susan mullen said...

Re any e-mail messages sent to the Chicago writer for general incompetence, he acknowledges receiving them per today's Jim Baumbach column in Newsday. Hey, the guy's a celebrity, that's how celebrities are treated. Article has some other info on the crumbling procedure of BBWAA/MLB writers' voting.

At 11/26/2006 10:04 AM, Anonymous rabid stan said...

Joe Mauer has the best offensive season for a catcher since Mike Piazza in 1997, and Cowley leaves him off the ballot like he's Rod Barajas.


At 11/28/2006 6:04 AM, Blogger June said...

there are so many things wrong with anonymous' posts (not least of which is the fact that he's a chickenshit posting anonymously) that I refuse to acknowledge their existence.

BTW , I have ordered 15 extra-large pizzas with extra anchovy to be sent to Cowley's house. At 2am. I trust that will suffice.

At 11/28/2006 6:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Waaaahh! Yankees didn't win again! Waaaahhh! Derek Jetere was ENTITLED to the MVP! He plays for the YANKEES, of course. WAAAAHHH!

At 11/28/2006 6:19 PM, Blogger Mr. Faded Glory said...

Do any of you chicken shit Anonymous posters even read the goddamned article you comment about? Or the site?

Are you even capable of reading? It's fundamental, you know.


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