Wednesday, January 06, 2010

Congratulations Andre Dawson

You're now one of the worst outfielders in the Hall of Fame.

Was it the lifetime .279 BA or the .323 OBP that had writers swooning (Dawson is now, by the way, the outfielder with the lowest career OBP of any outfielder ever inducted into the Hall).

Dawson's 119 OPS+ for his career speaks to a good player, but not an all-time great.

Most of the defense of Dawson comes from contemporaries who say he was "scary to play against" or a "gamer" or a "hard worker."

Someone enshrine Brett Gardner immediately.

I really don't get it. Usually you can look to RBI for a reason BBWAA members overrate a guy, but Dawson only drove in 100 runs 4 times in a 20-year career.

This isn't to say he didn't deserve some All-Star appearances in his career, but Hall of Famer?

Robbie Alomar of course was one of the best second basemen, both offensively and defensively, of all time. He didn't make the cut.

Tim Raines deserves to be in, far ahead of Dawson. Besides the steals (and more importantly one of the best stolen base percentages of all-time) he has higher career BA (.294), OBP (.385), and OPS+ (123). Yet Rock didn't even come close.

The BBWAA has gotten better in recent years in letting folks like Rob Neyer and Keith Law in, but you can tell there are a lot of knuckleheads still with votes.

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posted by Mr. Faded Glory @ 3:03 PM   5 comments


At 1/06/2010 3:45 PM, Blogger Rex Banner said...

1) Brett Gardner was never a feared player. Dawson was.

2) I thought SB attempts were bad?

At 1/06/2010 3:53 PM, Blogger Mr. Faded Glory said...

The "F" in "HoF" doesn't stand for "fear." Whether or not someone is "feared" is a bad reason to induct him. They can't quantify why he should be in so they reguritate meaningless platitudes.

No, SB attempts can be very, very good. For a lot of players, guys like Juan Pierre, they are bad. What's important is the success rate. People like to say "juan pierre stole 45 bases last year!"

Sure, but he got caught 24 times.

At 1/06/2010 4:05 PM, Blogger Rex Banner said...

No, the "F" stands for "fame." I guess some people equate a feared player to a famed player. If that's not the case, what's the real definition of a famed ball player?

Thanks for clearing up the SB issue. Last I knew, SB's were bad and strikeouts were good.

At 1/08/2010 9:40 AM, Blogger June said...

it's disgusting

At 1/18/2010 10:12 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Alomar and Raines should be in, but come on, Dawson was the second most dominant NLer of the 1980's, behind Mike Schmidt and ahead of Dale Murphy. When looked at it that way, I'd say he's a HOFer.

I also think Jack Morris is a Hall of Famer - the ace of three different WS staffs. High ERA but he knew how to win, got 265 of them.


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